Coloring and Genetics

[Newcastle]

AKC has always allowed full registration on whites, and it is an alternate color option on the registration (not printed on the form, but easily accessible with a phone call or now by checking online).  Purple is not standard or alternate, so no purple Boxers registered with the AKC!   Any registry is only as good as the integrity of its users.  Some will lie about parentage, some will actually be clueless; most are honest. 

As far as the coloring, while 'back in the day' there were many 'checked' Boxers, they seem to be fewer and farther between these days.  It's not impossible, of course, because the extreme piebald gene does allow for patches; it's just unusual to see Boxers (in the US, anyway) with white markings between that 1/3-2/3 range (give or take a few percentages on either side) - most are either less than 1/3 white (flashy), or more than 2/3 (white).

[alncris]

Thanks Jen, learn something new every day.

What is the point of allowing full registration on a white boxer when they disqualify Boxers that are any color other than fawn or brindle?

Wouldn't it stand to reason that since they are disqualified that they are not allowed full reg?
I don't want to break out into a debate whether or not whites should be allowed. But where is the responsibility on part of the AKC in upholding to the standard?

Does the ABC have a position on this?
Am I missing something here?

Also I am sad to hear that there are no purple boxers, but today I am going to go look at a champion pedigree ultra-rare miniature boxer. I think I may get one of those over a Boxador...LOL

[Newcastle]

The ABC prohibits the breeding and full registration of whites.  However, that only applies to those who are members of the ABC, or an ABC-member club.

The AKC's position, I would imagine, is that the breed standard applies to the conformation ring, but has no bearing on the many other AKC events for which white Boxers are eligible - and a conformation disqualification does not necessarily mean a non-breedable dog, as in some breeds even disqualified dogs are allowed to be bred.  (Mantle Danes are an example, though they are now allowed to be shown as well as bred.)

[alncris]

Very Interesting!
You are a wealth of information.
 

[BoxerPerson]

Wasn't that poor little pup Patches Overly checked too???

[blynn03]

The AKC's position, I would imagine, is that the breed standard applies to the conformation ring, but has no bearing on the many other AKC events for which white Boxers are eligible - and a conformation disqualification does not necessarily mean a non-breedable dog, as in some breeds even disqualified dogs are allowed to be bred.  (Mantle Danes are an example, though they are now allowed to be shown as well as bred.)

Good info, Jen!

Wasn't that poor little pup Patches Overly checked too???

I thought she was just white...but honestly I don't remember for sure.   

[aquagirl900]

I know she had a big blob on fawn color on her back...

[AandWBoxers]

I have seen white boxers listed on pedigrees from AKC.  As in, they were bred and had litters... 

Mugs' white littermates had none or very little color on them.  One had a black eye, the other I posted on another thread about white with brindling - she just had a small spot of brindle on her head, and the third one was all white. 

[blynn03]

I have seen white boxers listed on pedigrees from AKC.  As in, they were bred and had litters... 

The AKC is just a registry.  The ultimate "authority" for boxers is the ABC.

[reevz]

Wasn't Flocki (sp?) checked like a cow?

I thought Flocki was all white?

[blynn03]

Wasn't Flocki (sp?) checked like a cow?

I thought Flocki was all white?

No...Flocki was considered checked, I think.  Honestly, his coloring looks like the mantle pattern found in Bostons and Great Danes to me, but I think he was considered checked.  Here's a pic I found:

http://animalweb2003.altervista.org/Cani/Razze/Boxer/Immagini/Flocki.jpg

You might be thinking of Flocki's sister Blanka.  She was all white and very instrumental for the breed as well (maybe moreso than Flocki).

[Bugsys Mom]

That link doesn't work Brandy

[blynn03]

Try this one:

http://americanboxerclub.org/images/flocki.jpg

[Bugsys Mom]

He sure doesn't look like today's Boxers does he?

[blynn03]

He's definitely got the "roached back" look from his sire (a bulldog).