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Cassie is getting "mean"
« on: August 10, 2008, 03:19:24 PM »
Lately Cassie seems to be getting more "mean" so to speak.  Last week, we were cleaning the Guinea Pig cage (we took two from the cousins who were no longer taking care of them), and the dogs were down stairs and Cassie lunged at one and caught it in her mouth and broke the poor things back!!  I don't know if it was an attack or what it was....but we had to put poor Ginger down.

Yesterday we took them to petsmart to get their nails trimmed and Cassie kept growling at every dog she passed. We ended up taking her out of the store without getting her nails trimmed.  She is able to meet dogs when she is off leash, but she cannot seem to meet them when she is on leash.  Unfortunately it limits where we can take her.  Will this get better with more socialization?  Or can we not have her met other dogs on leash?

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Re: Cassie is getting "mean"
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2008, 03:22:01 PM »
She needs socialization...I would keep trying with her.  As far as the Guinea pig, I am sorry it was hurt and eventually had to be PTS, but I sure would NOT trust any of mine with one in the house!
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Re: Cassie is getting "mean"
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2008, 03:22:20 PM »
Hmmm not sure, but socialisation at any time is a good thing.  Did you socialise her from an early age?  Henri was socialised from 10 weeks but he grew into himself and does not like any dog in his face.  He is not aggressive but he will tell another dog off that he doesn't know if it comes in his face.  Whether he's teaching it manners and get outta my face, who knows!  You might try a hissy spray or a rattley bottle if she behaves badly during any socialisation.  

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Re: Cassie is getting "mean"
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2008, 03:25:17 PM »
Hmmm not sure, but socialisation at any time is a good thing.  Did you socialise her from an early age?  Henri was socialised from 10 weeks but he grew into himself and does not like any dog in his face.  He is not aggressive but he will tell another dog off that he doesn't know if it comes in his face.  Whether he's teaching it manners and get outta my face, who knows!  You might try a hissy spray or a rattley bottle if she behaves badly during any socialisation.  

She was socialized from a pup, with certain dogs.  But as she got older, she got less and less socialization.  And since about April, she's really only had Cujo and Dino (our old neighbours dog). She's normally fine off leash, we have had one problem with a spaniel a while back, but she used to be good with meeting other dogs, lately not so much

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Re: Cassie is getting "mean"
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2008, 03:28:13 PM »
You have to remember that what was instilled as a pup is still there, so try not to worry too much.  Bad experiences are the pits though, I know having had a few with other dogs going for Henri.  It just takes one to set them back a lot.  Usually around 2 they mature and don't stand the same crap they did as pups.  Henri does well with a firm hand in these circumstances.  But regardless, if a dog comes in his face (on or off lead), he will tell it in no uncertain terms that he is not happy.  I wouldn't like it either.  Good luck.

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Re: Cassie is getting "mean"
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2008, 03:29:54 PM »
Thanks Gayle, I was hoping that she wasn't starting to be an aggressive dog that we couldn't bring out anywhere.  I guess it's not finding not so busy places to socialize her with

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Re: Cassie is getting "mean"
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2008, 11:16:04 AM »
I would not put the two incidents in the same category. Dogs, like it or not, are still predators.  So a dog acting like a predator is not being mean, it's being natural.

On-leash tension is not that uncommon - you've essentially taken away a dog's "flight" option, so it's more easily switched to "fight" mode. 

Sophia Sadeyes (blanking on her human name) recently posted about this issue w/Sophia.  Renee gave some really good advice there about getting a dog to adjust to short on-leash greetings when necessary.

IMO, it's best to keep playtime off-leash and keep on-leash greetings short and sweet. On-leash is just a more complicated situation all together, and best kept short if they can't be avoided.

One note I would make that I don't think Renee made: 
#1. Don't punish Cassie for growling or upset behavior, getting upset will only increase the emotions in the situation. Redirect her or remove her from the stressful situation.
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Re: Cassie is getting "mean"
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2008, 08:18:16 PM »
One note I would make that I don't think Renee made: 
#1. Don't punish Cassie for growling or upset behavior, getting upset will only increase the emotions in the situation. Redirect her or remove her from the stressful situation.

Thanks I'll have to remember that for next time...cause Brad and I are both guilty of that.

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Re: Cassie is getting "mean"
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2008, 08:54:15 AM »
I'd bet we are all guilty of it at one point or another, it's a common and very human response - get upset at the upset!
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